Comments on: Yahoo’s iPhone "push" email, doesn’t.

By: John

John — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:48:32 +0000

At another thread it seems that you can not get email through WIFI. So trun off WIFI and just use EDGE or 3G. It doesn’t make sence but Apple and AT&T have really screwed up! Now the question is do they charge for the email going through there systems?

By: HSB

HSB — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:29:39 +0000

I have a 3G, and my Yahoo mail hasn’t updated in 3 days. I tried turning off WiFi, and, voila, it worked! I don’t get why, but it did.

By: RMJ

RMJ — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:32:26 +0000

Yahoo Push was working perfectly for me until last week. Then everything went haywire with my email on the iPhone. I would see the “Checking for Mail” status with the spinning wheel for 20+ minutes… hung in a loop. It would never time out. (Occured on both GMail and Yahoo accounts) A hard restart of the iPhone would usually get things back to normal… temporarily. By the weekend, I was reset/shutting down to solve the problem 2-3 times a day.

Then the Push feature suddenly stopped a few days ago… to add salt to my wounds, I suppose.

I think PLM (see Jan 31 post) is on to something though. If I disable WiFi (for example, while I am sitting in my own home), I receive pushed emails from Yahoo immediately–like the good ol’ days.

So, I have to choose? 1) WiFi and no push (ie. mail delays of 20-30 minutes)…. OR 2) Edge and slower connections…. Hmm.

Could this be a crafty way of getting me to upgrade to a 3G (and ditch the Edge)?

By: SSS

SSS — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:00:53 +0000

With an iphone 3g bought today, I have the exact same symptoms as PLM.

Cannot connect with WiFI, works perfectly with 3G or EDGE when using

imap.mail.yahoo.com
or
imap.apple.mail.yahoo.com

By: PLM

PLM — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 04:43:10 +0000

I was researching this problem and came across your blog. Have you all seen the article at http://www.ferris.com/2007/07/20/iphone-imap-vul/ which discusses a security risk with Apple and Yahoo’s implementation of push email?

I notice that the article I referenced above states that the push implementation relies on cell network coverage to work - it will not work with WiFi only (despite the previous poster’s experience - I expect he is using WiFi while still having an EDGE connection).

I, however, have noticed the opposite problem to JM above. My Push email only seems to work when I turn OFF the WiFi radio and have my iPhone rely ONLY on the EDGE network for data. In that case, I generally get emails within 1 minute of their being sent. Otherwise (when I have my WiFi activated) I must start the Mail application and wait for it to check in order to receive mail (unless I wait for the next scheduled mail check, as selected in Mail preferences).

In any case, you all should read the article I referenced - it points out that the Push implementation has a major security risk when used on public WiFi networks, which could allow someone to get the password to your Yahoo email account.

I’m actually kind of wondering that if, as of the 1.1.3 update, Apple has disabled the push feature while using WiFi to address the security problem mentioned. It would explain why I can only get my Push email to work when using EDGE only networking.

By: JM

JM — Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:40:00 +0000

HI I use push mail with native settings on a yahoo acount on iphone 1.1.1. I only manage to receive pushed emails (delay from 5 seconds to 30 seconds) connected to wifi AND with no code or pin lock. I’ve taken out the SIM pin code and the secure code lock of the iphone. I never managed to receive pushed email using GSM / Edge (only wifi) but I can check manually or ever 15 minutes the emails.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:10:00 +0000

What a frusturating issue this has become. I thought I was imagining things when my emails would dissapear right in front of my eyes. I have lost some very important emails that dissapeared from my inbox for no reason at all. I have used yahoo mail for years and have never had this issue until I started using it with my iPhone. I hope Apple and Yahoo come up with a fix soon.

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:26:00 +0000

I was having push problems as well. But now, I have a worse problem. Today, for no known reason, all the messages in my inbox disappeared on the phone. They aren’t in the trash. Nowhere. I checked via the Yahoo! web client, and they are actually gone! They aren’t in any folder.

I suspect that both Apple and Yahoo! have a share of the responsibility for these bugs and probably neither one is willing to address their side of it because they are blaming 100% of the problem on the other company.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:09:00 +0000

I have an iPhone and Yahoo email account. Emails that I keeped in the inbox or any other folder would disappear occasionally. It is very fustrating. Apple and Yahoo need to get toghther to fix this problem.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:04:00 +0000

After checking my Yahoo email, the IPHONE or Yahoo decided to delete ALL EMAILS in my user created “SAVED” folder. No reason that I can see. I did nothing to cause it. Very frustrating.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:00:00 +0000

Works for me. I have a Yahoo Plus account and setting the email up as a pop account instead of the preset imap works for me. I get my emails when they are sent.

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:10:00 +0000

In Settings/Mail there is an auto-check option for Manual, or 15, 30, or 60 minutes. That’s it.

The whole point of Push mail is that I shouldn’t have to check for email (which will save battery life as well); I’ll just get it when it arrives.

I have my auto-check set to Manual, but as I noted I go maybe 30 minutes on average before getting my emails.

By the way, if there was a 3-minute setting for checking email, and you used it, I think you’d get very little battery life. That’s why Push is the way to go. I just wish Yahoo would get it right.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:58:00 +0000

wait a minute…i just went to the Apple site and watched the email video. Apparently there is an Auto Check feature….at least in the video. But my iPhone doesn’t have that menu click. The first menu button is “Show” under messages….and I just downloaded the latest SW from Apple.

dank.

genius bar…here we come.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 06:51:00 +0000

I am having the same problem. I have owned (and worked on most of the models) Treos and switched to a RIM Pearl about 6 months ago. Just got an iPhone on Sat, and this is really bumming me out. I need to get my emails on time...

Tried the proposed IMAP path and that is a no-go for me as well.

I have searched all over Settings, but I haven't found a way for the phone to automatically check email for me every...say...3 minutes. Is that possible?

Also couldn't get my GMail account to work...at all.

- Slightly bummed

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:47:00 +0000

I updated the original post on 8/6 because it’s turning up in web searches and I wanted to provide those readers with a “status.”

By: fixyourthinking

fixyourthinking — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 03:54:00 +0000

If you want to conference call with me Tom … I have 24/7 yahoo phone support. Just email me and maybe we can three way on our iPhones with Yahoo and see if there’s an answer.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:09:00 +0000

Well, that didn’t take long. Changing the IMAP prefix to ‘imap.apple.mail.yahoo.com’ caused all but my Inbox to disappear. No, I need the default directory of ‘/’.

If I have to use a new address in order for this to work, I’ll likely wait until someone else offers iPhone push (shouldn’t be too long) and just go with them. I am not happy with Yahoo right now.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:00:00 +0000

I’m not going to be happy if I have to change my address.

Was it working for you at all? I get pushed email, I just don’t get it in anything like a timely manner. If I set the iPhone to check every 15 minutes I’d get it faster than the push.

As for the IMAP setting, you’d think the iPhone would plug it in if needed, but I just did and I’ll see how that goes.

By: fixyourthinking

fixyourthinking — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:23:00 +0000

Yes I agree … I have a Yahoo premium account (and have had for 8 years) - the only difference between me and you is I have website hosting and a domain name through Yahoo “ppple.com” - I had to change my address for the iPhone to a yahoo.smallbiz address.

Make sure also that you change the mail setting s on your computer to delete messages from the server immediately (for your computer) - change it when you go on vacation somewhere or might think you’ll need a back up.

Your iPhone will leave all messages, your computer will delete them, that way you don’t donload repeat messages.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:51:00 +0000

Sure it’s set-up right?

The iPhone isn’t available where I live yet, so I can’t verify from experience, but from what I’ve seen, it’s necessary to tweak the settings manually to get push-IMAP.

The IMAP path prefix, apparently, needs to be:

imap.apple.mail.yahoo.com

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/861000195831